Tanya Hale 00:00 

Welcome to Intentional Living with Tanya Hale. This is episode number 379, "'How Coaching Changed My Life' with Lisa." Welcome to your place for finding greater happiness through intentional growth, because we don't just fall into the life of our dreams...we choose to create it. This is Tanya Hale and I'm your host for Intentional Living. 

Tanya Hale 00:22 

Well, hello there, my friends. Welcome to the podcast today. As always, so happy to have you here and I am just happy to be here as well and to share with you some fun content. So before we jump in, October 14th is the next Talk with Tanya. This is just a free webinar where you can jump on and ask questions about anything. My life is open game, questions about situations that you're in, maybe you want to talk about a concept more in depth or understand something better. It's all just open. So you can just show up at this webinar and we just have a great discussion for an hour. Or if you just want to come and listen and hear other people get coached, that's a pretty brilliant space as well. So you can go to tanyahale.com, click on the "group coaching" tab and you can get signed up for that. You'll just receive an email that has the link for it and then you just show up. It's on Tuesdays at two o'clock Eastern, 12 o'clock Mountain. I would love to have you join me if that's an option. 

Tanya Hale 01:20 

So jumping in today, I have a real treat for you. I have a client named Lisa who has followed me for well over three years and she has taken multiple classes from me. She has done one-on-one coaching. She shows up for a Talk with Tanya's and she has had some amazing transformation. I will tell you that Lisa busts her butt to understand this content, to really apply it, to figure it out. And she has done some serious capital W Work and it has shown in the life that she's living now compared to the life that she was living several years ago. And I have so enjoyed working with Lisa and I just thought that you would find some value in listening to her story, hearing how she's been able to apply the coaching concepts that we talk about and see how it's made difference in her life.So with that, I'm going to hook you up with this conversation that I had with Lisa. 

Tanya Hale 02:21 

Okay, so welcome to the podcast today. So glad to have you. I have a really, really special treat for you. I have a client here with me, Lisa, who I've known for a couple of years now. Lisa, will you go ahead and just introduce yourself to everyone? 

Lisa 02:37 

Yes, hi. Oh, I'm so grateful, Tanya. Thanks for the opportunity. My name is Lisa. I live in Northern Utah. I have children. I have grandchildren. I have sweet parents, a sister, and many, many friends. I'm very, very blessed. 

Tanya Hale 02:59 

Yeah, Lisa has done just about everything that I do with coaching from just listening to the podcast, to coming to Talk with Tanyas, to taking classes, to doing one on one coaching with me. So, Lisa, I just want you to start off today by sharing with everybody, like what was going on in your life before you found coaching, like what was happening and what made you start searching for something to help you figure things out. 

Lisa 03:30 

Oh, goodness, Tanya, I don't even like to think about where I was back then. I was in quite a dark place. I felt worthless. I had very low self-esteem. I was just fresh out of a divorce that was very painful. And I just I just didn't quite know how to continue to dog paddle and get my head above water. I'm quite spiritual. And so I was leaning on the Lord a lot. And it just one day when I was pondering and I was very discouraged. And it just came to me that maybe I might be able to find something online. I'm not really electronic in a great way, but I was able to Google some different podcasts about self esteem and feeling like I wasn't enough. And somehow yours popped up. And, golly, it was back in July of 2022. And I remember listening to a couple of them, and it just seemed so foreign to me. The information...it was like it spoke to me, but I just couldn't wrap my head around it. So I would listen to your podcasts over and over and over again, just trying to be able to understand and feel in my heart what it was you were teaching. 

Tanya Hale 05:08 

Can I ask what was so foreign about it to you? We haven't had this conversation, so this is interesting to me. 

Lisa 05:15 

So, well, first of all, I felt like I wasn't enough. I felt like I was worthless. I felt like there just wasn't any light that I could find in my life. But listening to you and your podcasts, it gave me hope. It gave me comfort. They gave me hope. They talked about that it's okay when we feel like that, that sometimes in life we are going to be discouraged and that it is going to be hard. I felt like I was a victim. I got kind of stuck in victim mode. And you had podcasts talking about how to get out of victim mode and get into being my own hero. And how the only control I had was how I presented myself and how I felt about myself. I couldn't control anybody else or any kind of situation, but I decided right then that I needed to call you. I needed to get the free coaching to see if I felt good about doing one-on-one and to see if I could finally feel like I could figure out how to be my own hero, how I could become better instead of blaming things on other people. I needed to look in the mirror and really try to figure out who I was and how I could become healthier. 

Tanya Hale 06:43 

Mm-hmm. 

Lisa 06:44 

And so I remember calling you, we spent, I think it was only maybe 20 minutes back then. Maybe 30. And then I went on a trip to Europe and so I was able to really think about a lot of things that we had talked about. I listened to more podcasts. It was a very relaxing trip for me. And so I listened to a bunch more podcasts. And as soon as I came home, I called you and we set up, I think 12 weeks. No, 16. I think 16 weeks of one-on-one. And that was a total game changer for me to have you talk with me about my particular issues, my particular problems, to give me ideas that I would have never come up with in my own brain and heart and how to love myself, how to love others, how to not be judgmental, how to show myself and others grace. I mean, I could just go on and on and on. But anyway, that's how I found you. 

Lisa 07:53 

And since those 16 weeks of one-on-one, which I took all kinds of notes and I went back and reviewed them, then, of course, I've been pretty much a participant in almost all of your group classes and your Talk with Tonya. And I love that because everything is recorded and I can go back and listen and listen and listen. Sometimes you give us thoughts from a book or you suggest a book and I just go and get the audiobook and listen. Sometimes it takes me a couple of times to absorb some of that information. But I just can't believe that. I mean, I've had one of my children say, "Mom, you are unrecognizable." I love that. I didn't even realize how, I guess I don't understand how much I have changed. But apparently I have changed drastically and I feel so much better and I feel happy and joyful and comfortable and great in my own skin. And it's all because of this work. And has it been hard? Have I cried? Have I been mad? Yes, but it's changed every relationship I have with everyone. 

Tanya Hale 09:12 

Brilliant, because you're, you're in your 70s, right? 

Lisa 09:15 

I'm 69. 

Tanya Hale 09:15

69. So I just think it's so brilliant that in your late 60s, you make so many changes that are so significant, like it's never too late to change the relationships that matter the most to us. 

Lisa 09:32 

You're so right. I mean, I've made leaps and bounds better relationships with my grandkids and you know they're just young, age 15 down, and you know I realize I've made a lot of mistakes with them. I have really tried hard to visit with them about that Grammy makes mistakes too and Grammy wasn't her best self when she did these things but I want to start new. And you know I used to be quite, oh I don't know, I was very judgmental for sure. I kind of felt like I was always right and I knew best and I was the disciplinarian, whether it was with my kids and their spouses or whether it was with my little grandkids. And that's not my job at all. You know, you have taught me that my job is to love and I cannot tell you how liberating that's become to me. My job is to love and it's changed everything. It's been a game-changer. And has it been hard to learn? Yes. Do I still listen to every podcast you put out? Yes. Do I sign up for every group coaching? Yes. Do I come to Talk with Tanya?  Yes, because I find if I do something every day with you and and the concepts you teach in mind it helps me keep it at the forefront of everything and so I am ever so grateful for you. In my prayers every night I'm grateful for you. 

Tanya Hale 11:16 

Thank you. 

Lisa 11:17 

So thank you. 

Tanya Hale 11:18 

You know, I agree that keeping this work a top of mind, right? It makes such a difference. Obviously it is for me because this is what I do for my work. And I just love it so much, but I find that just touching, touching it every single day, like a thought about it, a podcast, I listened to a lot of other podcasts, you know, as well. And I'm always reading books and all these kinds of things. And I find that just touching base with it helps me to keep it forefront and helps me to remember, this is how I want to show up. This is what it means to stay in my lane. This is what it means to stay out of everybody else's business. This is what it means to allow other people to be themselves and me to be myself and that's all okay. Like we don't have to be all the same. And in fact, we're supposed to be different. And, so I love that idea that like touching base with, with either my content or somebody else's, I don't even care, right? But touching base with this content on a regular basis really helps, helps to keep me headed in the direction I want to go. 

Lisa 12:27 

Oh, me, too. Yeah, me, too. And, you know, it's amazing to me. I do a significant amount of driving. And I just can't believe how much I can learn on a little drive, you know, somewhere. And I mean, just that makes such a difference. And I just am so grateful for all of the content that you shared. And I know you have a bunch more. And I love learning and growing every day. I feel a difference and a change and that I become better every day. 

Tanya Hale 13:03 

Yeah, I love that. 

Lisa 13:04 

Yeah. I'll tell you that one of my favorite things, if that's OK, if I go into a favorite thing is the sense of self set that you set up those classes and all of those podcasts. I have listened and listened and listened. I've taken that class and re-listened to the recordings. Boy, that one is priceless. Because I didn't have a good sense of self. I always felt like I wasn't enough, that I was one-down, that I was less-than. But now with that hard work, I feel happy and content. I feel like I have confidence that I've never had before. I just went to a 50th class reunion. And wow, I loved walking in that door to see my sweet classmates and actually my former husband. And I felt great. Like I felt like I was just as alive as anyone else in that group. And I was so happy to walk in with confidence and grace and to know that my job is to love. And it's made all the difference. My job is to love. 

Tanya Hale 14:26 

And as soon as we start feeling like "I got to judge them, I got to change their mind, I have to tell them all the things," like as soon as we move into that space, we're like crossing boundaries, right? We're getting out of our own lane and I love, that's something that I love that you have focused on a lot is, "listen, I don't have to do anything. I just have to love. I just have to figure out what would love look like? What would it sound like? What would it feel like in this situation?" And then do that. That's all I have to do. It seems so simple, but freak, it's not simple. It does seem so simple. And there's no drama with it. I found that I'm living a drama free life. And I love that. 

Lisa 15:10 

It's so great. I've also found some incredible things about my kids and their spouses. Let me tell you what, instead of me thinking that I needed to be giving advice and that I knew best, I have found that my kids and their spouses are brilliant. Oh my gosh, they are so smart. They're so wise. They make such great decisions. I admire every one of them, where before, I don't know, I was just in this weird space of thinking that I am mom and I know better. To treat my adult kids as equals and to ask them when they come to me with a concern, instead of just jumping in with what I thought that they should be doing and then pushing hard until they agreed. You know, now I'll say, "would you like me to share my opinion or would you just like me to listen?" And sometimes they'll choose one or the other. If I do share my opinion, they're very kind to say, "you know, thank you for sharing." Sometimes it's something that they might consider. Sometimes it's not. And that's okay. And I love that. And there's no judgment from me or for them. I mean, do I slip up sometimes? Of course I slip up sometimes. And so I have asked my children and their spouses when I am giving unwanted advice or when there's a time that I'm talking about something that makes them uncomfortable. I always loved Mary Poppins and I love supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Now I know that's kind of a big long word, but I've asked my children and their spouses if when I start getting out of my own lane or off track, if they'll just say supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. And immediately, you know, it's like we kind of giggle and that's my prompt that I need to be thinking harder about what I'm doing. And so it's so great because it's such a happy word. It doesn't make me upset. And, you know, I just have to kind of giggle and say, "thank you so much for helping me because I need your help. "I've had 60 years of living in one way and now I'm learning new ways. So that is one thing that I really, really love is having just that fun little word that they can remind me, "mom, you know, you're kind of off track and let's reel you back in." And it's brilliant because you suggested to come up with a word and it's really been great. 

Tanya Hale 17:58 

Yeah. Yeah. I think it makes all the difference when we learn to communicate with our people about communication, how when I'm crossing lines, this is how you can let me know I'm crossing a line. And this is how you can let me know. And, and it's not going to like get me all riled up and get my defenses going, but it's going to make me go, "Oh, wait, you're right." And just be able to step back and realize that it doesn't have anything to do with us. Right. It's not like they're attacking us. They're just saying, "I think this is mine to take care of. It's not yours to take care of." 

Lisa 18:35 

Yep. And they'll take care of it in their way, which is a thousand times better than what I could ever come up with. Isn', that something? You know, we raise them to be smart and independent. Well, why am I having a hard time letting go and letting them do those things? Anyway, yeah, my life is so much easier now. It just is. I mean, it's like night and day. I am so grateful. And you know, one of the other things that you've taught me is to love what is. I know that that concept is in a book by Byron Katie. And I have listened to that three or four times. And it's called Loving What Is. And that's another thing that has helped me so much. Instead of wishing things were different or trying to control things to make them different, or to just throw up my hands and be frustrated with your help. Another big thing that I have learned is loving what is. And while I'm doing that, I'm able to see so many more good things, so much more light, so many more blessings, rather than just being frustrated and wishing things could be different. It's like, no matter what is happening, I find that if I love what is, I can find the silver lining, I can find joy. Joy is a big thing for me. And that has really helped. 

Lisa 20:16 

The other thing, I'm sorry, I'm just going on and on. You taught me a lot about grace. Grace for myself and grace for others. You know, finally, in all these years, you've helped me learn that I'm just human. And yes, I make mistakes. Do I have to circle back around and ask people for a redo? Or if we could talk about that item again, because I didn't show up like I would have really liked to the first time around. It's amazing to me how much grace others give me. And I need to give it to myself too. I mean, and I need to give it to others. We are only human. And I have learned through you that, you know, if someone is a little bit off, or, you know, if there's an issue with traffic, or someone says something odd, or hurtful, it's not about me, it's about them. And I have learned to show them grace. You know, sometimes I'll think, "boy, I just don't know why that person would do such and such." And then I think, "but now wait a minute, I don't know if they just got bad news from the doctor. I don't know what is going on in their lives." So it's like, life is so much less dramatic and so much more joyful. Again, if we just love, if we don't have any judgment, if we show others grace, and I have learned all of that through you, I don't know where else I could have ever learned it. You're amazing. 

Tanya Hale 21:53 

There's loads of people that do it, but I'm so glad that we connected and that I've gotten to be part of your journey, right? There's a lot of people that teach the same kinds of things that I teach, but I'm grateful that my voice spoke to you, that it resonated with you, right? And that this is a place because when you tell me stories about like how things were with your children and the in-laws before, and I know that we've done some work together to clean that stuff up and then how those relationships are now, it's just mind boggling to me how much work you've been able to do and how you've been able to heal those relationships. 

Lisa 22:33 

Oh, it's just been nothing but a miracle. And, you know, a huge part of it is my sweet children and their sweet companions who have shown me the grace and given me a chance to develop new and healthy relationships because they really deserve a lot of credit. And now that I know all of the crazy things that were unhealthy that I was doing, I realize how much credit I need to give them for allowing me to have a lot of redos. And I think that they, I think I'm a good example to them of trying to learn something new, even though I'm in my older years. And it's just so exciting. It's so invigorating. It's so joyful. I just  have to pinch myself and think, wow, I have so much joy and so much love and so much to be grateful for. And I'm grateful for that. 

Lisa 23:38 

Do you mind? Do we have time to talk about one more thing? So I used to really struggle with difficult conversations when anyone came to me upset about something or something was happening in their life that was really devastating. I often just, you know, just kind of blew them off or said, "well, yeah, but, but look at this that you have going for you." Or because I was so uncomfortable with their discomfort, I could not handle it. And because you have helped me so much, I've been able to really get into a space where I can listen we recently have had a sweet member of our family struggling with a terminal cancer diagnosis. And you know, I've realized that I can't fix anything. If I could, I would, but I can't fix anything. However, I can provide a safe space for a discussion. And I could have never done that without the work that you and I have done. That is so tough to watch somebody and feel their feelings and emotions of devastation and sorrow and fear, but be able to just sit with them in the moment and provide a safe space. I can't fix it, but I can love them. And this particular person in our family said, "thank you so much for being there for me and for being someone that I feel like I can talk to and I can tell anything to, and that you just are there." Again, my job is to love. 

Tanya Hale 25:35 

Yeah. Yeah. 

Lisa 25:37 

I mean, it always comes back to that. It's like, I mean, love is always the answer. It fixes everything. 

Tanya Hale 25:47 

I believe it does. 

Lisa 25:48 

Yeah, it may not fix the situation. We wish a situation could be different, but the bottom line is, is our relationships, that's the most important. And I am so grateful. I mean, this past, I guess it's been just a little over three years since I very first connected with you. And I mean, I just don't have any words. I am so grateful for you and what I have learned. And just, I never want to stop. I'm just going to keep going and learning. It's never too late, never too late. And you're never, I came out of a really dark space and I know a lot of people get stuck in dark spaces, just like I have. You can never be in such a dark place and you can never be too old and you can never be anything out there, but what you can learn and grow and change. And life is not even recognizable like it used to, like it was. 

Tanya Hale 26:53 

Yeah. That's what I think is so amazing is we can do, honestly, an about face, but it doesn't come without work. Let me ask you this question. When you look back at the work part, like we talked about this capital W Work stuff, right? And the work and the awareness of, "Oh my gosh, look what I'm doing. Oh, look how I'm doing this." And changing those patterns of behavior. If you could put those on a scale of one to 10, 10 being the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, zero being super, super easy. Where, where would you put that capital W Work for you? 

Lisa 27:31 

Oh girl. Well, for me, because I'm older, and my former tendencies were so ingrained, and I was in such a dark spot, I would have to say it was like an 11. Because I wasn't coming from an equal, like I wasn't coming from a plane of just neutral, I was coming from a plane that was under neutral, like I was in a really negative place. And I am older. And so those patterns and beliefs were deeply ingrained about not being enough, about being judgmental, about thinking that I had advice for everybody, thinking about I mean, it's like, wow, those things are hard to break. Yeah. And I've got so many journals that I have written in the past three years with things that I have learned from you, things that I have not done very well, things that I need to work on. And I mean, it has been at the forefront of my life. And it has made all the difference. I mean, when you say, you know, a zero to a 10, yes, it was 11 as far as hard work, but it's like 111 with my relationships. 

Tanya Hale 28:48 

What you get back from it, right? 

Lisa 28:48 

Oh, it's just priceless. It's precious. It's a miracle. It just anybody can do it. But it is it is work. And it's painful. And it's hard. 

Tanya Hale 29:04 

So where did you get the courage to decide to really start doing it? I mean, because I think that's the hardest thing for people, that first step, right? That first time that they call and say, "okay, I'm going to take advantage of this free coaching call with Tanya" or "I'm going to sign up for this first class." I mean, it's daunting work because it's so personal, right? Of course, it's a hundred percent personal. And it's hard to look at those demons in our lives in the face and it's hard to decide to take them on. And so where did you get your courage to decide that, listen, I'm going to take this first class. I'm going to sign up for coaching or actually even I'm going to get on her calendar and just do that free coaching call. Where did that courage come from for you? 

Lisa 29:56 

Well, for one thing, I just kept getting deeper and deeper and deeper in this discouragement and just this feeling of no self worth. And I knew that if I didn't do something, that I was just going to be stuck there. And life was discouraging and miserable. And I just didn't hardly want to get out of bed. I didn't really have anything that I felt like that I could look forward to. I didn't have any joy. And I've always been a fairly happy little soul. And so it was hard. And I just stood there and looked in the mirror and I thought, "girl, you've got to courage up. This is something you have to do. You're going to have to admit who you are. You need some help and you just need to go for it. What do I have to lose?" Like, what do I have to lose? And so I just decided to courage up and like, I just took a leap of faith. I mean, I could have talked myself out of it. I think I did talk myself out of it for a while, but it was worth every minute, every dollar, everything. It's changed my entire life. 

Lisa 31:21 

And I know that as I move forward, that all of my relationships are going to be so much healthier because I can show up as my best self. And I never had felt that before. So, I mean, I just, I don't know, I took a leap of faith and I just jumped out there on that branch. And it was kind of like, what's that thought that says something about, well, yeah, but what if the branch breaks? And then somebody says, well, then I'll learn how to fly. You know, that's what I've done with you is just learn how to fly. And, you know, I'm okay with me in whatever situation I end up being in. I'm just, I just can't believe how my relationships have changed. And I'm so happy and content, just little old me on my own, doing my own thing, and sharing joy and love with the world out there. Whether it's the cute little cashier at Great Harvest Bread, or somebody at the dry cleaner, or if it's someone at Jazzercise, or if it's someone that I meet while I'm serving in the temple. You know, I just want to share joy and love with everyone and service. 

Tanya Hale 32:39 

Mm-hmm. That's always, I think, I would guess that that's always been a part of who you are, but it sounds like you just got really lost for a bit. 

Lisa 32:48 

I did. Yep, I did. Yep, I had some unpredictable, unforeseen situations happen. And it just really put me in a dark place. And I mean, the thing is just learning to be friends with my adult kids and their spouses. I mean, just even one of these things, if I had only learned one thing from you about all these things we've talked about, it's worth every minute and every dollar. But I mean, I have learned tons of things from you. And I know there's still more, way more, to learn. And I'm not giving up. I'm still listening to all the podcasts several times, still signing up for classes. And yeah, I'm looking forward to what else I can learn. Because I just feel like I'm on a high. And I'm so grateful. So I'll tell you what, I didn't need any medication. I didn't need anything. All I needed was you and some new tools. 

Tanya Hale 33:54 

And the drive to look at yourself and to implement the tools, right? Like I feel so honored to be part of your journey, but that's all I am, is like a side piece, right? Like, because you are the one who's had to really just bust your butt to figure it out, to be courageous enough to look at yourself and say, "oh, look what I'm doing. That's hurtful. Look what I'm doing, that's harmful," because we just don't see it for a lot. And courageous enough to let somebody like me come into your life and say, "let's take another look at this and let's see what's going on here." Because it's hard, I mean, it's not only hard to see, to have somebody tell you that you're doing stuff that's harmful, but then you're paying me to do that. 

Lisa 34:44 

Well, I must say, I love your gentle encouragement. You have a gift for that. And I will never forget how many times I would say to you, "I don't know. I just don't know." And you would say, "yes, you do. Sit with it for a minute. You do know. I'm not accepting 'I don't know.'" 

Tanya Hale 35:08 

Yeah. 

Lisa 35:09 

And like, I'll never forget that. And it's like, oh, you have a gift for helping me to be able to soak in just all of the all of the tools and the things that I needed to become who I am today. And I really appreciate that because you didn't beat around the bush and I needed that and you have a gift for being able to be very sincere, but loving and encouraging at the same time. However, I still, whenever I say "I don't know" for the rest of my life, if I say "I don't know," I'm going to say, "oh, wait a minute, give me just a minute. I do know. But I got to think about that. I've got to process it a minute." We can do this. So we've got this. Yeah, I can do it. Anyone can do it. 

Tanya Hale 36:07 

Yeah, that's how I feel about my life too, right? If I can create the kind of life that I have right now and the kind of relationship that I have with my husband right now, I'm not a unicorn, right? I'm just a regular old Jane out there, right? Like, just trying to figure it out. And I think that if you and I can do this work, I think anybody can do this work, you know? There's just, we just have to be courageous enough to decide to do it. And we have to be going to invest the time and the effort and the energy and the money to create something different for us. Because there's a beautiful life. 

Tanya Hale 36:52 

I love that. What, you know, who's the lady who wrote the poem about, what are you going to do with this one beautiful life or wild, beautiful life? Who is that that wrote that poem? I don't know. I don't remember it either, but I love the poem, but we have, we have this one beautiful life. What are we going to do with it? Are we going to wallow in misery because it's just too hard and it's just not fair that I have to be the one that has to do all the work, or are we going to decide that we want to live this beautiful, precious, amazing life. And I love that you too have, have decided that, listen, I'm going to live an amazing life and I'm going to figure out what it takes to get there. Because you just inspire me so much. And I just am so honored to have been part of your journey. So thank you for sharing your life with me. 

Lisa 37:51 

Oh, thank you. And I'll tell you, I just, you know, now I think with the time and the money and everything, I think, "Oh my gosh, I can't wait for Tanya. I can't wait to see what I get to learn today." And I mean, even the group sessions where all I'm doing is listening, it's like, "Oh yeah, I know what they're talking about. I've been there before and I know I'll be there again." And I mean, just everything, it's like, yeah, at first it was kind of hard to make the time and the effort and to, you know, I chose to do journaling and listening, to go listening to things over and over and over again, because it took me that long to process it. But now it's like, "Oh my goodness, I get to talk with Tanya next Tuesday." And it's like, "Oh, I can't wait. I gotta get my journal out. I gotta get ready." And anyway, yeah, sorry. I'm kind of gabby, but I just can't say enough. Thank you to you. Thank you so much. And I've probably only touched on half of what I've learned, but I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for encouraging me and including me. It's it. I'm flattered to be able to share my thoughts with you. 

Tanya Hale 39:02 

Well, I'm super, super glad to have you on. I hope that other people realize that this is doable for all of us. And, yes, and you know, one-on-one coaching may not be everybody's thing. And there's a lot of people, I think, who can do some really amazing work without the one-on-one coaching. But the classes are so great, and, and such a good thing to be a part of. And just even, just daily a podcast today, right, I think just starts to shift things so much. And that's why I do the work that I do. I just, I feel called by God to do it for sure. And so grateful that I get to share what I've been learning and so grateful for people like you, who just remind me that yeah, this is where I want to be doing what I'm doing. So thanks. 

Lisa 39:55 

Thank you, Tanya. I am so grateful. I am forever grateful. And when I get a chance to meet you, I'm just going to come running, skipping, doing cartwheels and give you a great big hug and lift you right off the ground. 

Tanya Hale 40:09 

At some point, I'm gonna be back in Utah and I'll just have a big party and tell everybody I'm going to be there. 

Tanya Hale 40:14 

Right on. So yeah. I'll be the obnoxious one wearing really bright colors. 

Tanya Hale 40:22 

One more thing I adore about you, so thank you so much. 

Lisa 40:27 

Thank you, Tanya. Have such a great day, friend. Thanks a million. Bye-bye. Hugs, hugs, hugs. 

Tanya Hale 40:40 

Thank you so much for joining me today. If you would love to receive some weekend motivation, be sure to sign up for my free "weekend win" Friday email: a short and quick message to help you have a better weekend and position yourself for a more productive week. Go to tanyahale.com to sign up and learn more about life coaching and how it can help you get to your best self ever. See ya.